Talk Out of School

NYC's controversial new reading program

Episode Summary

After a brief recap of local education news, NYU researcher Flor Khan, parent Alina Lewis, and teacher Martina Meijer discuss the problems with the most commonly adopted new reading curriculum in NYC schools, called HMH Into Reading.

Episode Notes

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NYU Metro Center,   Lessons in (In)Equity: An Evaluation of Cultural Responsiveness in Elementary ELA Curriculum

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NY State Education Department, Culturally Responsive-Sustaining Education 

Comments by NYC students on HMH Into Reading 

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NY1, Some parents are skeptical of new reading curriculum 

Contact info for guests: Alina Lewis at; MORE at; Flor Khan at